The US works like Sweden. Presidents and politicians change but policy stays the same.
Trump becoming president made Deep State more visible to ordinary people since Obama and Deep State acted like one.
Assad: Why talk to Trump if he doesn’t control the US? (Russia Today, RT)
we don’t think the president of that regime [US] is in control. We all believe that the deep state, the real state, is in control, or is in control of every president, and that is nothing new. It has always been so in the United States, at least during the last 40 years, at least since Nixon, maybe before, but it’s becoming starker and starker, and the starkest case is Trump.
Putin (Oliver Stone)
Putin (Le Figaro)
Skripal case: Neither UK nor Russia will gain from this incudent. Russia loses reputation by the accusations of using nerve gas agsins civilians, UK loses reputation by making ghe unreasonable accusations. Someone else must have orchestrated the attack. Someone else is NWO/Deep State. (Earlier the term ZOG was used. It has a bad ring and focuses on Zionism. Globalism is wider than Zionism. The term was maybe constructed by false flag trolls. Jokingly the world globalist network is sometimes called Skynet, referring to an AI network controlling the world trying to exterminate mankind, in the movie series Terminator.
Vladimir Putin: ‘I have already spoken to three US presidents. They come and go, but politics stays the same at all times. Do you know why? Because of the powerful bureaucracy. When a person is elected, they may have some ideas. Then people with briefcases arrive, well dressed, wearing dark suits, just like mine, except for the red tie, since they wear black or dark blue ones. These people start explaining how things are done. And instantly, everything changes. This is what happens with every administration.’
Changing things is not easy, and I say this without any irony. It is not that someone does not want to, but because it is a hard thing to do. Take Obama, a forward-thinking man, a liberal, a democrat. Did he not pledge to shut down Guantanamo before his election? But did he do it? No, he did not. And may I ask why not? Did he not want to do it? He wanted to, I am sure he did, but it did not work out. He sincerely wanted to do it, but did not succeed, since it turned out to be very complicated.
USA leaves the Iran nonproliferation treaty (Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, JCPA), is this decision taken by Deep State? No single state seem to benefit from it (including the US).
Many decisions are taken by Deep State and internationally The New World Order. The Jewish lobby [ judelobbyn ] is one (the?) way NWO works. (Jokingly- the new world disorder)
Swedish TV will fine itself if it says Jewish lobby instead of pro-Israel lobby. This is very typical. We are not to connect Jewish interests to activities outside Israel. Jewish interests are connected to globalist activities like militarism, mass immigration and feminism.
The fictional top civil servant Sir Humphrey Appleby (left), from the TV-series Yes Prime Minister is an example of Deep State.
Trump recommends a book on Deep State via Twitter:
Great new book by Jason Chaffetz appropriately called “The Deep State.” Very interesting indeed! / Donald Trump
Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure–one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.
David Rockefeller, autobiography “Memoirs” p 405
Neither UK nor Russia will gain from this case. Russia loses reputation by nerve gas accusations, UK loses reputation by making unreasonable accusation. Someone else must have orchestrated the attack.
It is very obvious that UK has no evidence of Russian involvement and even no evidence of nerve gas attack against civilians. Even in this situation 28 countries will immediately expel over hundred Russian diplomats at once. It is obvious that these countries are not taking their own decisions. The decision has to be made by external forces, call them NWO, for example.
War activity has been reduced in Iraq and Syria. Deep State is getting nervous. We see several strange activities with unclear results, like Skripal, withdrawing from Iran nonproliferation treaty, uncertain decision about partaking in meeting with Kim/North Korea.
In forums trolls try to spread the conception that the president of the USA may be in a bad mood one day and make a bad decision, like moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem or suddenly cancelling the US-North Korea summit. These matters are naturally not decided in a whim. Trump or other presidents are pressured by Deep State and sponsors.
When news media suddenly put extreme focus on North Korean robot testing and nuclear detonations, autumn 2017, Trump had to act, not to look indecisive. But these testings had gone on for a along time.
Trump wishes to leave a legacy of peace, but can not make decisions on his own. Obamas opinions seemed more close to those of Deep State, but he still wanted to close Guantanamo, but failed.
Ursprungligen postat av Ondahamstern
Menar du att Trump är “deepstate” för Trump använde ju Netanyahus lilla PR stunt för att ursäkta varför de drog sig ur Iranavtalet trots att bevisen var över 10 år gamla
Obama var Deep State.
Trump har ju försökt streta mot en del, men måste ju ge sig inför Deep State i många lägen, t.ex ambassadflytten till Jerusalem, tillsätta Bolton och utträde ur Iranavtalet.
När man ser hur mycket Trump motarbetas av de medier som strävar mot krig så får man tydligt intrycket att han strävar mot fred. Även vissa uttalanden om att “goda relationer med ryssar är bra”. Han har uttryckt sig mot globalism och för “Americanism”. Han accepterar omröstningsresultatet på Krim. Jag tror nog många skulle hålla med om att Trump är bättre för freden än Obama.
Deep state är närmare knuten till demokraterna än till republikanerna.
Man ser en ganska tydlig kamp mellan Trump och Deep State. Trump har lyckats genomföra betydligt fler, bra åtgärder som står i strid med Deep State och kallt krig, jämfört med tidigare presidenter. Situationerna har föebättrats avsevärt i Irak, Syrien och Korea även om den nuvarande samhällsordningen i Irak är katasteofal.
På följande punkter har Teumpnfått ge med sig. Huvudsponsorn Adelson hsr ju säkert utövat pågryckningar om flytt av ambassad. Adelson erbjöd sig bl.a att sponsra ambassadbygge.
– Flytt av amerikansk ambassad till Jerusalem.
– Militärt svar på false flag-attacker med påstådda kemiska vapen i Syrien.
– Utträde ur icke-spridningsavtalet med Iran.
A very powerful, Jewish secretary of state, Henry Kissinger (corresponding to Deep State). A president (Donald Trump) attacked by The New York Times and Washington Post. The actors of the Watergate scandal 1972 resemble today’s situation, but this blog has not investigated if there is any deeper resemblance between the two situations.
August 2018: Even the old Watergate journalist Bob Woodward is partaking in the smearing of Trump by writing a book: “Fear: Trump in the White House”.
[Bob Woodward Carl Bernstein]
The Bilderberg group
The Bilderberg group of international finance and influential people has annual meetings. It has become a symbol of globalism. Its schedule is public but naturally anything can be discussed between the participants. It is definitely a serious actor. Several Swedish politicians have visited there and not much later won elections in Sweden and become prime ministers. As the gorup’s meetings have become more well-known it may have become less important. In social forums, trolls try to focus criticism of globalization on this group and let it serve as a decoy for the many aspects of globalization. The trolls discuss the history of the group etc.
Several Swedish politicians have become prime minister after invitation to the Bilderberg group: Göran Persson, Fredrik Reinfeldt
Thorbjörn Fälldin som var inbjuden till ett Bilderbergmöte 1978 och som senare samma år avgick som statsminister efter stridigheter inom den dåvarande motsvarigheten till Alliansen. Fälldin efterträddes av Ola Ullsten (FP) men ett år senare satt Fälldin åter vid rodret efter valet 1979. Fredrik Reinfeldt var inbjuden 2006 och vann valet senare samma år. Stefan Löfvén frotterade sig med eliten 2013. Ett år senare var det han som vann valet.
Deltog i Bilderbergmöte innan de blev statsminister
Olof Palme 1969-1976 (deltog 1965)
Fredrik Reinfeldt 2006-2014 (deltog 2006)
Stefan Löfven 2014-2018 (deltog 2013)
Thorbjörn Fälldin (deltog 1978 blev statsminister 1979 igen)
Deltog när de redan var statsminister
Tage Erlander 1946-1969 (deltog 1962)
Carl Bildt 1991-1994 (deltog 1992)
Thorbjörn Fälldin 1976-1978 (deltog 1978)
Göran Persson 1996-2006 (deltog 2001)
Ola Ullsten 1978-1979 (deltog 1979)
The blog has not yet investigated the history of NWO. Were Nixon, Kissinger, NYT and WaPo just reflections of the same pattern as Trump and Deep State today, maybe stretching back as long as to the Babylonian captivity? [Babylonska fångenskapen] However such connections are not easy to discuss or present. Historical aspects are one of the trolls favorite areas. They excel in criticizing Jewish activities back in time or in Israel to move the focus away from here and now.
“… benevolence towards brother Jews. But the rest of the world they confront with the hatred reserved for enemies”.
-Tacitus, ca 100 AD
The Jewish Community Blossoms under Sassian Rule
The new Sassian regime, unlike the Parthian, was far more centralized and strictly Zoroastrian. Certain Jewish sages were afraid that the kind and the clergy would interfere in community affairs. Others, on the other hand, hoped to find a modus vivendi with the Sassians. The sage Samuel summarized this attitude in his famous saying Dina de-malkhuta Dina, the law of the land is law. On the whole, the Jews of Babylon adopted this view, which brought them an extensive period of prosperity and cultural blossoming.
More on history here.
See the blog about counteracting democracy.
Congress/president balance of power
Det verkar som om kongressen och presidenten kan driva var sin utrikespolitik, som i detta fall verkar ha rakt motsatt effekt, sett ur vissa synvinklar.
Jag vet att presidenten t.ex kan lägga in veto mot vissa av kongressens förslag. Men vad gäller dessa sanktioner verkar kongressen kunna genomdriva förslag som är direkt avsedda att sabotera presidentens ambitioner att ha goda relationer med Ryssland.
Undrar om det finns någon “gräns” för hur mycket kongress och president kan motarbeta varandra? Det borde kunna lamslå utrikespolitiken i vissa lägen.
While the US expelled some five dozen diplomats shortly after the poisoning, the administration stopped short of making a formal determination that Russia had broken international law.
But Congress has been pushing for such a decision and now the state department has confirmed Russia’s actions contravened 1991 US legislation on the use of chemical weapons. That breach automatically triggers the imposition of sanctions and places requirements on Russia to avert further restrictions in three months time.
Those requirements could include opening up sites in Russia for inspection – a move Moscow would probably resist.
So far President Donald Trump has been silent on this latest move – which could well derail his attempts to develop a new, warmer relationship with Vladimir Putin.
On Saturday Rodong Sinmun, the North’s most prominent daily, praised Trump for seeking to improve US-North Korea ties and achieve world peace, which it said would be the “feat of the century”.
“However, he faces too many opponents,” it said in a signed commentary.
The newspaper said Democrats and even some Republicans are hampering Trump’s efforts for their own partisan interests while media hostile to Trump are undermining his policies.
It accused bureaucrats and Trump’s aides of “speaking and moving in contradiction to the president’s will” and “distorting facts and covering up his eyes and ears in order to mislead him to a wrong decision”.
Deep State and Jewish interests are more closely connected to the Democratic party:
WASHINGTON — The 115th US Congress, which convened for the first time on Tuesday, is 5.6 percent Jewish, according to an analysis by the Pew Research Center.
Jews made up 28 legislators in the 114th Congress and have now picked up two more seats. Of the 30 current Jewish lawmakers, 28 are Democrats and two are Republican.
The Times of Israel
See also control of media
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03.1.2.17 (4) (KCNA) Militarization: North and South Korea, source criticism; KCNA
A few earlier posts: (scroll down list)
2017 12 12 Earlier: IOK saknar bevis – Internationella Olympiska Kommittén stänger av Ryssland utan bevis
2017 12 15 Earlier: Destabilisering genom invandring
2017 12 18 Earlier: Destabilisering genom feminism och HBTQ
2017 12 25 Earlier: Geopolitisk krigföring – Media/USA attackerar Europa med flyktingar. The enemy within. Weapons of Mass Migration
2018 03 01 Earlier: Tesla, Ubuntu/Linux – self destructive moles & Google, Facebook – political control mechanisms
2018 03 10 Earlier: The terrorists’ objectives
2018 04 02 Earlier: UN obstructs murder investigation – UN supports an illegal regime. The true reason why Catalán and Sharp were killed.
2018 04 22 Earlier: The Iraq war 2003 was built on fake evidence. / So far, no accusations of chemical warfare have been proven true. / Also the war on IS was built on fake evidence.
2018 04 25 Earlier: Why only few air crash investigations are accurate. – Passengers lives are at an unnecessary risk.
2018 04 27 Earlier: The Cold War and other anti-Russian activities. The image of conflict; The useful enemy
2018 05 01 Earlier: Journalist wounded by IS ?
2018 05 10 Earlier: Who owns the news media
2018 05 22 Earlier: False flag awards
2018 05 30 Earlier: Fake news
2018 08 30 Earlier: Soros’ funds used to influence Swedish politics
2018 09 05 Earlier: Control of the Internet, Google, troll farms
2018 09 06 Earlier: Quotes
2018 09 07 Earlier: Feeding frenzy, the media monopoly disposes of politicians that do not follow the agenda
2018 09 08 Earlier: The media monopoly sells outdated technology to the Swedish gov’t @ SEK 10 bn.
2018 09 09 Earlier: All parties unite to refuse party SD posts as chairman according to election results.
2018 09 10 Earlier: News media gives birth to a political party – Ny Demokrati
Table of Contents (in English)
Massmedia och demokratin
News media and the democracy]